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 Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:34 pm

Censors are pretty inconsistent, they let some obvious ooc attacking happen to some players but not others. Then they get snappy when you call them out on it. Irritating.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:38 pm

A certain amount of inconsistency is unavoidable with any volunteer work force. That's just how it goes.

I'm more and more of the opinion that Badger and Swallow just need to scrap the entire censor council and start over. It's such a mess now I think that's probably easier than fixing what exists.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:42 pm

I just wish some censors didn't act like they had an extreme case of PMS -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:47 pm

Heh. Yes. Totally agreed there. *cough*Anteater*cough*

I think I'm done in that thread unless another censor shows up to discuss. Anteater is turning it into something reminiscent of the political threads I tend to avoid. Yanno, the ones where they end up arguing over whether turquoise is more blue or more green, etc. I don't know if she's being willfully obtuse just cause she likes to argue or if she really doesn't get it, but it doesn't seem worth pursuing.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:50 pm

I don't know either, she reminds me of my physio teacher. She is right and her logic is right, everyone else is just wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:10 pm

"Obtuse." That's the word I've been thinking about the past few days. Seems the perfect word to explain so many people in RK.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:35 pm

Some ppl get promoted to positions of responsibility because they're active, not necessarily because they're any good. Likely the pool of ppl volunteering to take on HC work is small. After all, who'd want to have to deal with the bitches and bastards of RK.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:10 am

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Some ppl get promoted to positions of responsibility because they're active, not necessarily because they're any good. Likely the pool of ppl volunteering to take on HC work is small. After all, who'd want to have to deal with the bitches and bastards of RK.

this.

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:52 am

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"Obtuse." That's the word I've been thinking about the past few days. Seems the perfect word to explain so many people in RK.

I refuse to even try to understand what you mean by this Wink

"That bitch Anteater" pretty much sums up precisely what I thought when I saw Anteater's PM about editing my post. There is definitely a double standard going on. So far in recent months, I've had multiple very clear OOC attacks on me in the forum, been called a bitch in the forum, and currently have an entire thread by a whiny brat aimed at me - as in, I am named in the title. Now, I generally laugh it off, except for the one thread from Hannah that was just way out of line, but when stuff like that is allowed and yet most of us constantly have our posts edited to protect the fragile feelings of certain specific people, it really pisses me off. When I defend myself against attacks, and my defense is edited but not the attacks, and my defense was certainly not close to worse than the attack, that pisses me off too.

If they don't like dealing with the whining in RK, then apply consistent rules and get out of the way. Half the whining is because of this bullshit.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:37 am

Beth wrote:
Some ppl get promoted to positions of responsibility because they're active, not necessarily because they're any good. Likely the pool of ppl volunteering to take on HC work is small. After all, who'd want to have to deal with the bitches and bastards of RK.

True.

Also, like any position of power. The ones who actually want itare the ones you should avoid giving it to at all costs. If people actually want to do such a shitty job, it's basically never out of a sense of altruism, and almost always because they're getting something out of it, even if what they're getting isn't always noticeable to everyone else.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:50 am

All censorship is wrong.

All censors are cunts.

It's quite easy really.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:02 am

Mick wrote:
Beth wrote:
Some ppl get promoted to positions of responsibility because they're active, not necessarily because they're any good. Likely the pool of ppl volunteering to take on HC work is small. After all, who'd want to have to deal with the bitches and bastards of RK.

True.

Also, like any position of power. The ones who actually want itare the ones you should avoid giving it to at all costs. If people actually want to do such a shitty job, it's basically never out of a sense of altruism, and almost always because they're getting something out of it, even if what they're getting isn't always noticeable to everyone else.
did ya do psychlogy or socio? Smile

ye i think a lot of the censors because they have the power to do as, can be as twattish as poss. they can give no reason as to locking threads if they feel like it. i wasn't completely just talking about locking spam thread, in general was concerned and curious so asked questions openly. censors didn't have to interfere in the discussion if they didn't wanna but that so and so butts in.

anteater even goes anymore discussion about it, next person gets a ban or point whatever shit i dunno don't have forum open. how does that work? i was quite clearly formally being serious asking how their logic exactly works. it is non existent, she didn't answer shit all just locked it. what a fuckin ego.

it gives em less work to just lock anything oh so they think? btw that thread where censors were actually answering hmm tl;dr

you'll see how censors vary, in ireland there's this whole nice nice approach. in places like i remember seeing pl and some munster ones lately. censors come in and go to people now all aww i loved your writing, aren't ya all good ikkle gals and boys playing nicely, see keep that up. i saw it and was like LOL but some of them even answered players who questioned them Razz pl forums were so dead and empty, didn't even know who censor was so i started rp'ing with piglet but noone replied Crying or Very sad lol
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:46 pm

Boris wrote:
All censorship is wrong.

All censors are cunts.

It's quite easy really.

cheers.

that they even prefer the to be called censors rather than mods is very telling.

Moderator:
# someone who presides over a forum or debate
# someone who mediates disputes and attempts to avoid violence

Censor:
# someone who censures or condemns
# subject to political, religious, or moral censorship; "This magazine is censored by the government"
# a person who is authorized to read publications or correspondence or to watch theatrical performances and suppress in whole or in part anything considered obscene or politically unacceptable

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:35 am

Wombat strikes yet again.

People commented that all the Peace people sound just like each other. Wombat told people to knock it off and stay IC. Paddy rightly said that all they were doing was IC observations of their speaking styles - nothing was said of witches, clones, etc. (and btw, ANYONE that read all the posts from Peace would first absolutely notice they all sound exactly alike, it doesn't at all take any sort of brains). Wombat then got huffy, split it and locked it, ending with a comment that any complaints about censoring must take place in private.

I'm collecting names for a get-Wombat-out-of-Ireland-or-we-will-begin-to-be-more-hellish-than-you-can-imagine petition to Badger. Give me a shout if you want to be on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:38 am

I'm not in Ireland, yet, but I am always up for being on a petition like that... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:43 am

can't remember but i think shark even discusses in public, their own actions with peoples.

have seen it with the new ones in ireland.

also comeon even iiiii as soon as i got to CC crossing, 1st thing i saw was noticing these things with PEACE. hence the pisstake i did with tea party. fun times? (i posted my observations elsewhere, might've been up later than usual but oddly enough actually wanting to read forum, well not really wanting but sure was interesting!)

(just saying, am fairly RK ignorant long term noob) yet even i noticed once getting back, what was going on kinda.

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:00 pm

Grace wrote:
Wombat strikes yet again.

People commented that all the Peace people sound just like each other. Wombat told people to knock it off and stay IC. Paddy rightly said that all they were doing was IC observations of their speaking styles - nothing was said of witches, clones, etc. (and btw, ANYONE that read all the posts from Peace would first absolutely notice they all sound exactly alike, it doesn't at all take any sort of brains). Wombat then got huffy, split it and locked it, ending with a comment that any complaints about censoring must take place in private.

I'm collecting names for a get-Wombat-out-of-Ireland-or-we-will-begin-to-be-more-hellish-than-you-can-imagine petition to Badger. Give me a shout if you want to be on it.

....seriously?

What happened to Wombat in the cross to Ireland?
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:12 pm

I'm thinking something behind the scenes must have happened. Maybe she was told she wasn't doing a good, proper job in Scotland or she was told she'd get a promotion if she kicked but in Ireland. I mean, it's either incentive or ego that drives, right?

Maybe players in Scotland drove her bonkers an they're trying to protect her?
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:14 pm

My suspicion is that they asked her to "crack down" on us, that the censors are whining that we are too difficult. We aren't, really, but when they start interfering in RP and IC and everything else to a ridiculous level, we will scream like an Irish banshee.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:21 pm

Only reason Ireland is difficult, I suspect, is that whilst I was there or when people I know were, they didn't tend to be kept an eye on at all and the censors were often pretty much non-existent.... But Wombat used to be a lot better and had more of a brain :/
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:12 pm

That's the problem. The censors SHOULD be nearly nonexistent. They should rarely be stepping in. Wombat and several of the others are overkill. We have had some seriously heated threads in the past, but in my experience, the censors only stepped in when it was just over the line and getting worse. Now, things are edited, locked, "so and so flutters on a branch to watch the proceedings carefully" BEFORE anything happens, just because they think it might go bad. That's just insanity.

In fact, Kair and I were talking, and I may change the petition to demand an entire overhaul of the censor standards.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:26 pm

put me down on the list, thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:39 pm

I'll sign it too... somethin has to change with things there
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:56 pm

Bella_catorina wrote:
I'll sign it too... somethin has to change with things there
hey i just saw yer with donnies now... Smile congratz and am so sorry i got a kitten to nippletwisted him, you should've done it lol didn't know and don't want people to think anything of that bad kitten. Shocked it just likes inflicting pain and well when asked to, who would say no lol *hides*

i'll type my name onto it agreeing too.
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PostSubject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from.   Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:31 pm

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hey i just saw yer with donnies now

WHAAAAAAAA? Shocked

she may deny it, she is a groupie in denial...lol

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