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PostSubject: Suicide VoN run!   Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:28 pm

Okay, the title isn't that tempting, I admit. Basically I need some help with practising healing a raid sized group. So far I've been in 2 groups that have wiped on VoN at the end fight and I believe that much of that is to do with the sucky healer (me) who panics and ends up letting the melees die before the job is done (and Eelliz usually dies somewhere in the middle of it all too).

If anyone would like to help me practice healing a VoN raid that would be much appreciated. Also tips for healing the end fight are welcome. I'm finding that half my mana bar is gone before the fight starts from healing on the base beforehand. Lvl 12 healer, so got the mass cmw spell, and the healing aura which I didn't have on the last run at lvl 11. I've 1000 SP without ship buffs (which have usually run out by the end fight).
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:30 pm

The end fight isn't difficult if you have good DPS - it's usually over within 30 seconds on normal.

As far as the base healing goes, that shouldn't be too bad either if you have good coordination and dps to reduce the trash at each base. Paladins and bards can help spot heal too.

Healers can only do so much - don't blame yourself either.

Sounds like you've had two groups that weren't led very well, imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:20 pm

First rule of clerics as I know it is that you are the most important one to heal, without the cleric party is in trouble.....after that it is a maatter of knowing which person is associated with which f key, and being able to hope that a melee who is low on health backs away for a little bit until you start to heal them.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:29 pm

You don't spot heal on VoN unless you go the hero method, you spam group heals along with the other two healers in the party. Also you need someone to call out "Fire" when the dragon is about to blow. If your party isn't constantly beating on the nose, then the dragon might start throwing comets at you all, so keep it busy or you'll all die.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:47 am

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... along with the other two healers in the party...

I think I just spotted the flaw in the plan for the two raids I went on. First one I was the only healer at the end (the other had dropped out) and the second time it was me and a FVS who could only spot heal. Okay that makes me feel a bit better.I've no idea what the hero method is =) Where do you position yourself when throwing out the mass heals?
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:28 pm

Well when you are running the bases, you split up the healers.

That's why I said that pallies and bards can "spot" heal, because generally there are one or two healers in a party (and three bases). If you have an arcane melee, then that counts too, because they can heal themselves.

During the final battle, you focus your heals on one person in the middle of the group fighting the dragon. This can change if the person decides to zerg or dies.

Generally the dragon dies in one round if everyone rushes in and does their job. If they hesitate, it might take a couple rounds and/or the dragon cometfalls the group standing just inside the doorway (bad thing - I've seen an entire group wipe that way). When the dragon starts to breathe smoke, that's when you call "fire" and everyone needs to run behind the rocks before the dragon breathes fire on the group. You can spot heal at that point and then once the dragon is done breathing fire, it's back out from behind the rocks to finish the job.

On epic, it takes several times running back and forth from the rocks to kill the dragon, plus you have some nasty fire reavers to deal with as well.



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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:30 pm

I'd love to try and run VoN with you since its on my to do list anyway
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:21 pm

at lower levels it is probably best to do the hero method, choose 2-3 melee who have good DPS and assign a healer to each one. You then spot heal your hero to keep him alive until the dragon is dead while the rest hide behind the rocks. Reason this is better is because you don't have good group heals (and the squishies stay alive). Suggest that method next time you run, especially if there is a favored soul as the other healer, they don't get group heals as early.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:44 pm

Beth wrote:
Blainwolfe wrote:
... along with the other two healers in the party...

I think I just spotted the flaw in the plan for the two raids I went on. First one I was the only healer at the end (the other had dropped out) and the second time it was me and a FVS who could only spot heal. Okay that makes me feel a bit better.I've no idea what the hero method is =) Where do you position yourself when throwing out the mass heals?

ya unless you're doing a high level loot run, I'd suggest a couple healers other then that elite Von can be done with a solo healer;)

It's going to be weird taking Auro thru it at level, those lightning traps are gonna hurt!
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:26 am

I'd love to practise with my Cleric too, so I'll join you some time Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:03 pm

*commits the advice to memory*

Thanks guys ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:35 pm

lets all run around and do things!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:30 am

As a small coda to this thread, thank you Bella for taking me on that VoN run. Despite the traditional lava swim that Eelliz seems to require, it was great to finally complete this raid. Seriously - I'd not wanted to play my cleric much lately because of this VoN block, so I'm really happy ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:31 am

it was great fun, and if you noticed... I attempted to avoid any lava portion myself or I'd have been joining you Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide VoN run!   Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:50 am

Hmmm Phy still has to do VON

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