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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 am

Zogdor wrote:
it's all about DPS. DPS is the main thing in the game and if there is no DPS then the mobs won't die. Therefore, you have have to have great DPS otherwise the mobs' DPS will get you before you get them.

Did I mention DPS?

It is about DPS. That's why casters were upset at the proposed changes. Because their ability to kill quickly was being taken away from them.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:23 pm

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It is about DPS. That's why casters were upset at the proposed changes. Because their ability to kill quickly was being taken away from them.

I think Zog was making an Axer joke, but yea; if insta kills are taken away, there isn't much left for casters to do besides crowd control. Not like most casters can melee. Sad

And the previous post is a great point. I guess I'm just concerned that options would be taken away. I think more options the better for everyone. Smile

If 2 soloist builds do the same DPS as a barb and a hjealer, fine. But if that same barb and hjealer does the same damage as 3+ soloist builds, then a lot of people like me would just think its simply not worth the effort I think. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:20 pm

well, back in the day of pen and paper, multi-classing was costly. Part of the reason for the level 20 capstones is to get a bonus for stay true to one class. The problem is that bonus isn't enough to out weigh what you might get from a splash, and you don't get the xp penalties for multi-classing like in the table top version.

sorry totally pointless addition


anyone want a DDO account?
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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:42 pm

DDO account? yours? your son's? I'm confused...
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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:03 pm

well, looks like they killed the idea for the change already. thank god, yanno its nice to have admins that actually listen to their players, unlike that other game.... Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:43 am

Darkness wrote:
well, back in the day of pen and paper, multi-classing was costly. Part of the reason for the level 20 capstones is to get a bonus for stay true to one class. The problem is that bonus isn't enough to out weigh what you might get from a splash, and you don't get the xp penalties for multi-classing like in the table top version.

sorry totally pointless addition


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in DDO it encourages multi-classing as most of the (non-casting) class bonuses are in the first few levels. it will be interesting to see how things work with the expansion...i took a quick look at the epic destinies and decided that my clonk that had no DPS, didn't have great DCs for instakill and no stunning fist was just a healbot and not much use...so i TRed him. handwraps were taking up a spare slot where i could put superior devotion IX or something Wink in combination with the stone of experience and the 30% bonus that starts tomorrow i should have him up to 20 by the time the expansion comes. i have no problem with arcanes being more powerful at endgame...that's the way these games should go...they're weaker at the beginning and über-powerful at the end. but i think that Wail (in particular) was overpowered.

about your capstone point, you're probably right...there's only a few that are worthwhile - barb, favoured soul,monk are about it off the top of my head...
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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:05 am

Darkness wrote:
well, back in the day of pen and paper, multi-classing was costly. Part of the reason for the level 20 capstones is to get a bonus for stay true to one class. The problem is that bonus isn't enough to out weigh what you might get from a splash, and you don't get the xp penalties for multi-classing like in the table top version.

sorry totally pointless addition


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im not too familiar with 3rd or 4th edition (ddo is based on 3rd edition), but i do remember 2nd edition was very hard to multi-class, even had to split xp among the classes...

a lot of changes coming, will have to see how it plays to make a call on it. just glad some of the nerfs they were considering were shelved Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:02 am

30% bonus xp starting tomorrow is gonna be sweet for my TRs Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Oh Dear...   Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:42 pm

DDO is the devil... just as I really need to be busy with work they go and do this Sad
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